Big Changes

The Character sheet has a few bugs, when trying to fill it in.... keeps filling in other parts that arnt supposed to be connected... or is it just my download, and use of adobe acrobat....

When I try to fill in weapons they both fill in the same and I cant change one but not the other....

and equipment appears in the contact allies and secrets boxes too.....

I like the fact I can fill it in on the computer and them print it if needed, but this means I'll have to print it then write it out... ;-( unless it gets fixed xx

I am just lazy thats all...xx

Hi Kim and Nails,

Thanks for letting me know about that oddity with the character sheets! I've fixed that now, and made it so that the form is totally able to be filled out by hand. I've removed the auto-calculation on the Health Boxes and Total Health, as I was finding that my players didn't like having to cross that out when the game started. Let me know if you'd prefer a version with the auto-calculation in and I can upload that for you.
Here's the link to the new character sheet: immersion-rpg.com/immersion/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Infected-Character-Sheet-Dec-15.pdf
Let me know if it does the trick!

nails, yes those changes were intentional. I decided to make Presence an Attribute, as it seemed more descriptive than Charisma, and gave more of a distinction between Charisma and Tact. This way, you could have a brooding character with a high Presence, who was scary and filled the room and made everyone take notice, without needing them to also be charming.

Seduction was taken out a while ago actually, as we found that Diplomacy worked for that just as well. Streetwise is now absorbed into Rogue, with the Rogue skill now encompassing knowledge of criminal or security-breaking activities, like cracking safes or hotwiring cars, or disarming an alarm (or a booby trap), while also allowing them the skill with the streets, knowledge of dealers and so on, which Streetwise allowed.
Domestic I put back in after being asked by a number of players for it to go back in. Go figure! But it does help with such things as running your finances if you've got a business, so I do find it gets use.

The idea is to make all skills and attributes really useful, to take out any dross, to combine them where necessary, and generally streamline it. I found that no players ever used Rogue, few used Seduction, none used Beauty, few used Wisdom or Constitution as an active Attribute, and Courage was barely used compared with Resolve and Luck.
So we brought back in Intimidation and Command, which were both a part of the previous Skill, Presence. Command we're also using for logistical abilities, like organising an army, etc.

But I certainly welcome any feedback you've got in changing over! If there's ways we can tweak it to improve it, I'm all ears

Hi Nails,

Well I missed this one here, but we had a chat about it on FB! I'm still curious to see how you found it.

You're right, the Quick Start Rules did contradict themselves. I think that's fixed now (checking it over). That's because I've changed it a couple of times. You've got to hate changing a rule! The old one tends to stick around.

That's not a bad idea with the Exp. Though I also have the view that combats can be very, very lethal, so having 16 Health doesn't mean you're immortal. You'll just take a couple more bullets before going down, or be slightly less crippled.

After the game you just had, with you two pcs on negative, what do you feel about the level of HP? It's a great test. They took on a LOT of opponents, who were very well armed, so it stands to reason that they'd get pumped with lead. But at the same time, it's not so fun to die easily. You want to be able to survive at least a bit of a slamming (from the sounds of it they copped a very, very large slamming however... haha!).

Anyway, curious to hear your thoughts!

We allowed the PCs to purchase up to the same value of their current max HP. We changed the cost so it was the same as the attributes. Our reasoning was that this could be viewed as the PC becoming more tough and grizzled over time making it harder for them to be put down, and they would not be able to get that 'good' over a short period of time. All groups play different, some like to put lots of combat, other lots of role playing opportunities, others even have the narrator do open roles to make it more tense.

The EXP i was giving out followed the recommended guide lines of on average 12xp and depending how well they did and what they accomplished it was changed accordingly.

To compare the difference between the current method and our adjusted version here is an example:

Bob has HP:9

Bob has played 10 sessions which has by chance equated to 10 days passed in the game world. His EXP gained =12xp x 10 = 120xp

the player would like to max out Bob's HP as quickly as possible.

EXAMPLE 1: Current method

Extra Health costs Exp equal to half the new Level(rounded up). The maximum Extra Health that can be purchased is equal to the character’s Base Health.

cost to purchase new Hp is as follows:
hp(new value)=cost= cumulative cost
10=5 =5
11=6 =11
12=6 =17
13=7 =24
14=7 =31
15=8 =39
16=8 =47
17=9 =56
18=9 =65

The total cost = 65xp

with Bob's 120xp he can easily purchase the 9 extra Hp

EXAMPLE 2: Our Adjusted version

Extra Health costs Exp equal to the new attribute costs. The maximum Extra Health that can be purchased is equal to the character’s Base Health

cost to purchase new Hp is as follows:
hp(new total value)=cost =cumulative cost
10=4 =4
11=8 =12
12=12 =24
13=16 =40
14=20 =60
15=24 =84
16=28 =112
17=32 =144
18=36 =180

total cost = 180xp

with Bob's 120xp he can purchase 7 extra hp





granted the costs are a lot steeper but to me it is effectively an attribute score (of a fashion) so the cost should be more. Yes it is a brutal world but only the tough and adaptable survive. so the PC's should choose their combats wisely, even though sometime the choice is out of their hands they must decide the best course of action to survive.






In reference to my game i have been running the PCs were brought into negative HP due to taking on 12 people armed with assault rifles, when there was just them and 2 NPCs. They could have been smarter about it finding a diplomatic way out. their +3 stat for their armour helped with the absorption reducing the damage but this was also the same for the enemy who had the same. I used open rolls as well to ramp up the tension.

What are other people opinions on the two different methods?

Hey vonpenguin, hmm I thought I had contacted everyone about that! Did I miss you? I must sincerely apologise if so!

I'll really need all those in by mid January.

You could shoot me your ideas at oliver@immersion-rpg.com

Cheers mate!